May 2, 2025

The Torah Dilemma – what exactly IS Torah?

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This broadcast explores the question “what EXACTLY IS Torah” and reaches a controversial conclusion

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My name is James Robertson. I'm a researcher, publisher, and

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teacher regarding the matters and true. So the almighty Creator,

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been actively serving him since nineteen ninety three, over thirty

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two years. If you're not actively serving Yar, then by

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default you're serving Satan. And my objective is to show

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you how you can make a big difference on Earth

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and qualify for a position of high esteem in heaven

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for eternity It's important to understand that as a believer,

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just being good is not the point. It's relationship with

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Yard that counts. Without this, you will be in a

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very unpleasant place in heaven with nowhere out. And my

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aim is to show you how to get close to Father.

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If you're a good person without a clear relationship with Ya,

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then you're in a spiritual no man's land and you

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will not enter heaven when you die. The Creator has said,

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regarding unbelievers, why would I want someone to spend eternity

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with me when they do not believe if I exist?

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I was calling everybody on the planet to be involved

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and serve him, help him to have victory over a second. Fundamentally,

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we each need to learn to see things on your

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on earth from your perspective. Pieces my website at www

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dot Ntmeishue ministries dot org. Will email me on James

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at ntime Issue ministries dot org. Our topic today is

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the Torah dilemma? What exactly is Torah the overview? Over

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a number of years, I've had contact with various Messianic people.

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We see themselves as Torah observant and you correctly see

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your houshure incorrectly Jesus as Messiah, the anointed one who

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was to come. The question that arises is with a

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tora observance as in a formal study of texts, and

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observance of text is relevant in this age. In saying this,

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while I've read the so called Old Testament from Barrish

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Youth in correctly Genesis to Malachy in correctly Malachi over

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twenty times since I came to serve farther, your intensely

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father has never impressed on me that I should become

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observant of some of those books. At an intellectual works level.

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This broadcast explores the question what exactly is tora and

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reaches a controversial conclusion. Who also review your relationship with

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the Creator? So this this broadcast is based on the

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article twenty twenty four toeve oh four the Tora dilemma?

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What exactly is Tora? As I said, I've come into

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contact with quite a few people who toro observant. But

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the problem is there are different opinions as to what

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the word torah in the Hebrew means, and the word law,

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which is commonly the English translation of the word Torah,

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but which refers to a number of other concepts of

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law as well to illuminate my comments in two thousand

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and one, Ye are clearly stated to mean that the

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Bible was not his word. It contains errors and is

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only about two and a half percent inspired. So building

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too much on the Bible, whether it's the first five

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books of the Bible or the entire Bible versus being

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led by the spirit is problematic. So the point here, folks,

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there a couple of points. One is the Bible is

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the useful reference book. The books that were recorded before

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the exile of the Israelites to Babylon were not necessarily

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fully preserved in the In the exodus that took place.

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Get the picture. The Babylonians have overrun Jerusalem, they take

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the inhabitants captive, and they force march them some considerable

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distance to Babylon. The so called Torah was in so

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called Torra skull scrolls, bigger, bulky things. It is improbable

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that those roles were carried by any individual to Babylon.

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Maybe they were, but my understanding is that different people

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took fragments and they reconstituted the older books of the

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so called Old Testament in Babylon, partly from memory and

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partly from assembling fragments, and if you read carefully, most

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of the books are fragmentary. There are chunks of text,

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and then there's a logical nonconformity between that and the

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next text. It's not one contiguous flow of writings, even

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within individual books. An important realization that is necessary for

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this discussion is that the Old Covenant was fulfilled through

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the offering of Yohusher. So in considering this topic, it's

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vital to understand that Yehoshure fundamentally changed the situation regarding Torah.

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So if we look in Mati Yahoo incorrectly Matthew chapter

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twenty seven, Verses forty five to fifty three, and now

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from the sixth hour until the ninth hour, it was

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darkness over all the land. This is now just before

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Yahoo sure dies on the steak, not across on the steak.

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So he's hanging there desperately trying to bleed, to breathe

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in agony, agony, And about the ninth hour, Yahushur cried

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out with a loud voice, saying, Eli Eli Lama sabatani.

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That is my beloved mighty one, my beloved mighty one,

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Why have you forsaken me? Now the conventional English is

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my God, my God, why have you forsaken me? But

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he actually said Eli. And if we read on, some

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of those who stood there when they heard that, said,

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this man is calling for Eliyah incorrectly, Elijah immediately, and

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Eli Yah means Yah is my beloved mighty one. Immediately.

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One of them ran and took a sponge filled with

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sour wine and put it on a reed and offered

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it to him to drink. The rest said, let him alone,

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let us see if Elia will come to save him. Yeah. Sure,

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cried out again, and with a loud voice, and yielded

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up his spirit. And then behold, the veil of the

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temple was torn in two from top to bottom, and

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the earthquaked, and the rocks were split, and the graves

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were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had

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fallen asleep were raised coming out of the graves. After

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his resurrection, they went into the Cedepot city and appeared

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to many. This is confirmed in Mark fifteen thirty three.

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So there are a number of key points here. So

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first of all, I'd like to refer you there's an

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article on the website the Miraculous Planning of the Death

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of your Hushur where and when? And I taught on

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it on this channel a few months ago for an elaboration.

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At many of these points the rocks were rent. It

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was an earthquake, and an earthquake crack through the foot

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of the stakehold where your show was hanging down to

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the ok of the Covenant, which had been hidden there

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by yurumiahu Jeremiah at the time of the Babylonian exile

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in five eighty six PC. And your Sure's blood ran

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onto the mercy seat of the Ok the Covenant and

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introduced a new covenant, a new offering for the forgiveness

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and the ordination of a new high priest. Now, the

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fact that the O the Covenant was there was only

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discover by Ron Watt in nineteen eighty two, So at

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the time that you Assured died, nobody understood that this

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has happened. And it's very significant because it means that

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you Sure became a new high priest, new offering for

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sin new covenant through the blood falling on the mercy seat,

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fulfilling the terms of the Covenant of marshy Moses, the

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so called Old Covenant Old Testament. It's not a testament.

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In fact, it's not a word, it's a covenant. And

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then the veil of the temple was torn from top

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to bottom, thereby revealing that the most set apart place,

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the Holy of Holies, was empty and the Ark of

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the Covenant was not there. So the High Priest was

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a fraud and the offering for atonement of sin was invalid.

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It's important to note that it was torn from top

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to bottom, of showing it was not done by human beings,

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as Yah opened a way to relationship with him to

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all believers. This is vital to understand in the context

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of the discussion of tour. So a couple of pieces here, folks,

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what we learn with Whyte's discovery of the of the

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Covenant in the cave under the execution site, is it

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from five eighties or the five eighty six PC. There

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could not be a legitimate high priest and there could

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not be a legitimate offering for atonement on the day

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of atonement because the ark of the Covenant is gone,

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and both of those things required the sprinkling of the

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blood of a lamb or go through that spot blemish

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to be sprinkled, the blood to be sprinkled on the

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mercy seat couldn't be done. Ox gone going to exile.

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So really what we find is it because of the

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rebellion and the disobedience of Israel, the people of Israel,

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which led to them being taken captive to Babylon, they

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reached a point then where the high priest was illegitimate.

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It was a ritual, but it had no substance in

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terms of the Covenant of Marsha Moses, and that when

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they did the offering for atonement on the day of Atonement,

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it was also meaningless because there was no ark of

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the covenant. So for five hundred and eighty six years

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plus another at he three and a half till the

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Sure died, there was no legitimate high priest, and the

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high priest who called for your Sure's death was not legitimate.

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And then the curtain was torn, which meant that anybody

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could walk into the Holy of Holies where the covenant

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was supposed to be. And this is really important, folks.

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It's important to understand that number one, the barrier, the

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artificial restriction on human beings having a close relationship with

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your was taken away. The priesthood was shown to be

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illegitimate and folks, you need need to see that in

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the light what you read in the Bible up to then,

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certain of those things ceased to be valid. Then, coming

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back to the passage that I read a couple of

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minutes ago about You're Sure's death and giving up the spirit.

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I've spoken of this about this on several occasions, but

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at bears repeeding. It is vital to understand that the

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centipot spirit of Yar came upon your shure when he

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was immersed by Yehuka and John the immersed John the

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Baptist in the Jordan. It was the spirit of Yar

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on your shure that enabled him to pain, to perform miracles,

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held the sacraise the dead, walk on water, feed five thousand,

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et cetera. And then when he died You're sure, Yeah,

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I had to take his spirit off your shure because

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he was so anointed. Otherwise he would never have died.

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The fact that You're Sure claims out, why have you

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forsaken me? Why have you left me? He wasn't expecting that.

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Yah didn't tell him that that was going to happen.

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Suddenly he loses that anointing, he loses that close relationship

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with father, and then his heart is broken and he dies.

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There is absolutely no way that you're sure is Yeah,

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there's no way that Jesus is God. I really ask

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you to get that, folks. Then also note that the

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two tablets are stone with the ten words. The ten

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commandments were in the Covenant, which had been missing from

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the time of your Amaho. This is thereby opened the

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way for you to write the moments on the hearts

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of believers. This passage is profoundly important to this discussion

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regarding the meaning of Torah and the relevance of Torah

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observants in the current age. And then to look back

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to what I touched on a couple of minutes ago,

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it is vital to recognize that the people who called

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for the death of Your Houshure were what we would

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today call Torah keepers. They regarded the five books at

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the start of the Bible, the so called five Books

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of Moses, that entity as sacrasanct, authoritative, and the basis

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for one's relationship with Your And because Yahushur, who were

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sent by Your filled with the spirit of Yard, did

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not accord with their narrow view of what he should be,

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they had him killed. So, in considering the life and

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death of Yoshur. It is also vital to understand that

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the people who called for the death of Yohoshur misinterpreted

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the Torah as they had it, such that those who

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were strictly Torah observant were responsible for the death of Yohoshur,

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thereby terminating the terms of the covenant through Moshi and

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opening the way for the new covenant through Yohoushur. Thus,

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Yah rejected Torah observance in the strict intellectual sense. When

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Yahushur died, the chosen people stopped being chosen. They killed

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the anointed One who was to come, the Messiah, who

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was the fulfillment of the Covenant of mashe So, folks,

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if you are somebody who claims to be a Torah keeper,

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you need to check out that you are in fact

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transposing yourself prior to the death and resurrection of your

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sure in trying to keep a law or a book

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of laws which the people failed to keep to such

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an extent that killed the anointed One, the Messiah. And

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so at that point Yah said, I'm tearing the curtain open,

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I'm taking away the barrier. I'm allowing anybody who has

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belief in me to the covenant of your sure to

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come close to me. So my message to you today,

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in part, is that you can get as close to

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your as you choose, and you are the only constraint

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on that. Your mind set, your mental position is the

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only thing that is keeping you from getting really close

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to your and spending it innity on a very high throne.

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Coming back to Toro observance, most of those who practice

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Toro observants today subscribe to the view that the Torah

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relates to the five so called Books of Moshi, the

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Books of Moses, Beshith incorrectly Genesis, Shamoth incorrectly, Exodus, way

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Yikra incorrectly, Leviticus, the Midbar incorrectly numbers, and Deborum incorrectly Deuteronomy,

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which I will hencef fourth referred to as the five Books.

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Some of these people believe that the five books were

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all written by Moshi Moses before he died, including the

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portion at the end of Daborum which describes the death

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of Mashi and what happened immediately after. Not the above

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does not mean that I'm saying that people should not

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read the Five Books or the Bible diligently. A few

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times and take notes and ask questions. I am saying

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the deep intellectual study of the Five Books or the

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Bible as a whole is not appropriate, and in fact,

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I'm saying it's damaging. You need to have a spirit

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to spirit relationship with Yard, and intellectually engaging with the

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Bible is not helpful, particularly memorizing the Five Books of

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the Bible, which some people do, or any other book,

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including the Qur'an. It's off. The mark Yar does not

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want a relationship with your heir. He wants a relationship

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with your heart, with you, your innermost being, your spirit.

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He's not interested in a whole lot of laws, a

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whole lot of intellectual stuff. So let's talk about the

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six hundred and thirteen Mitzvots, which you may or may

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not have come across some of the people mentioned above.

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The most strictly tor observant also observe the six hundred

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and thirteen Mitzvot, the six hundred and thirteen laws deduced

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from the Five Books by rabbis and tortoise a strict

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basis for getting into right standing with you. You can

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search on the internet or the six hundred and thirteen

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Mitzvots as Mitzvot. It will be a parent that such

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a large number of rules requires substantial intellectual effort in

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order to engage, understand, and apply, with the consequence that

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those who take on this discipline are likely to be

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intellectually engaged with the book and not in tune with

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your spirit. Folks, I had largely an intellectual revelation of

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your and the Bible, etc. When I was young. I

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didn't have any deep spiritual experience. In nineteen ninety three,

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prough them may prof the March, when you spoke to

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me audibly, I instantly realized that my intellect had led

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me to the wrong path and got me into a

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lot of trouble. So in a way that I can't

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fully explain, I walked with Ya from then on a

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spiritual basis. I constantly asked him questions about the Bible.

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I took copious notes, I got copious revelation, and I

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kept walking with him in the spirit. And I encourage

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you that if you are in the place of memorizing

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bits of the Bible or the Five Books or whatever,

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or the Quran or whatever, stop seek a deep personal

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relationship with your Father in Heaven. So coming back to this,

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thing about the six hundred and thirteen Mitzvots. This is

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what you share, was referring to in Matijahu twenty three

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to four, speaking of the Torah observant leaders, cribs, et cetera.

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For they bind heavy burdens hard to bear and lay

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them on men's shoulders. That's the six hundred and thirteen mites,

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flats and some of the other stuff. But they themselves

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will not move them with one of their fingers. In

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my over thirty two years, as of May twenty twenty five,

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were being led by the spirit of Yah. Yah has

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strenuously kept me from having anything to do with the

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six hundred and thirteen Mitzvots bar being aware of their existence.

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He won't even let me read them. And you can

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get offended by that and say, oh my goodness, well,

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you know, there's guy Robertson seriously off the mark. That's

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something between you and father. I'm very confident that what

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I've said is valid. I've been saying this for many years.

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I've been praying regularly, show me the level of my

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prison deception and how to correct it. Judge me severely

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and correct me harshly, that I may save you more perfectly,

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and I have to tell you that you are has

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never once said to me, James, you're out of line.

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You need to study the six hundred and thirteen. That's

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what you also keep me from going to Bible school,

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by the way, because he hates the Bible, because people

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worship the Bible instead of having a relationship with him. Inkause.

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Considering what follows, keep in mind to say, for six

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my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you've

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rejected knowledge, I also will reject you from being priest

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for me. Because you have forgotten Torah, the law of

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your mighty one God, I will also forget your children.

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This paves the way for the coming of You're Sure

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and the New Covenant. Those who champion tour observance may

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take this as an injunction to study more deeply. Were

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in fact, it is challenging people to return to deep

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knowledge and experience of the Almighty himself. Folks are taught

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why teach regularly honors basically a critical examination of everything

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around you, from the universe to the Solar system, to

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the Sun, to the moon, planet, Earth, plants, the animals,

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us reveals huge complexity, enormous creativity, great discipline, and there's

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any one reason why following into all that trouble. Because

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he was lonely and he wanted friends. He didn't want

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you to have a relationship with the Bible. You didn't

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want you to have a relationship with your pastor or

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whoever or whatever. He didn't want you to go to

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Bible school and worship the Bible. He wanted you to

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have a deep personal relationship with him, to talk to

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him all the time, hear him all the time, engage

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with him all the time, have him involved in your life.

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So how does studying of the order of I don't know.

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One hundred and twenty pages of writing correlate with having

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a deep relationship with Father. I read someone the other

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day saying that you have to keep tory in order

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to be pure to have a relationship with father. I

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don't think so. You need to have relationship with Father

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and then you'll get pure. So an important point which

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builds on what I just said, the eye is lonely

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and he's making adjustments. Notice also that in the historical context,

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your eye is lonely and working with what he has

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to work with. Regarding human beings, which have been increasingly

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weak and pathetic. The people today are far weaker spiritually

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that they were three thousand and six hundred years ago

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at the time of Boshi. As a consequence, the eye

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has had to substantially and progressively redefine how he works

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with human beings. These adjustments continue to today. In considering

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the question of tore in the present age, it is

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important to evaluate exactly what is aplicable today. So what

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we see is at the time of Marshi, Moses, when

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you are entered into that covenant through Marshi, and they

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put the blood on the door posts and the lintels,

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and they came out of Egypt and everything, and Yak

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done in the mountain and gave the Ten Commandments, et cetera,

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and designated the priests and the tabernacle and the ok

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of the Covenant and everything. As I said a few

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minutes ago, it did not work. Please understand, as folks

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going back two three four thousand years for a formula

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for living your life today, it's not wise because things

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have changed. Ye is looking for friends and then touring

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hearts doing this. Note that Hebrews ten sixteen states this

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is the covenant that I will make with them after

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those days as the Audien and me self existing incorrectly,

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the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts

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and in their minds. I will write them. And so

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in the context of this of this broadcast, the question

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arises which laws are being referred to. As I said,

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it's a body of opinion which says the five books

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must be fully and completely un understood, and we will

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read from them every week, and we will study them

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every week, year after year after year after year after

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year after year. And somehow by doing that it will

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be pleasing to Ya and he will reward us when

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we come before the judgment seat. Just stop and think

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about what I've just said, because I want to suggest

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to you that it doesn't make sense. Here we are.

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Yah went to all this trouble to create us to

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be friends, and now he's going to judge us on

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the basis of our in depth knowledge of five books.

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So I don't think this is the law the Torah

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that's going to be written on our hearts, or is

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written on our hearts. It turns out that Hebrews ten

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sixteen is quoting yim Yah, who incorrectly Jeremiah thirty one

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thirty three. But this is the covenant I will make

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with the House of Israel after those days. It declares

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they are the attorney self, existing the Lord. I will

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put my law in their minds and ascribe it on

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their hearts, and I will be their mighty one in

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correctly God, and they will be my people to a point.

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Is also references Ezekiel thirty six, twenty six, twenty seven.

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