Dec. 27, 2024

The Torah Dilemma – what exactly IS Torah? (the Law of Yah)

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There is considerable difference of opinion with regard to the “Law” that was given by Moshe {Moses} that has been fulfilled by Yahooshua versus the so-called “Torah” that it is said is still applicable, versus the “Law” that Yah has said He will write on the hearts of true Believers. This broadcast discusses the various conflicting interpretations and sets out my understanding of what is correct.

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Jomy Close to You, eval Day down again, he s

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good Day. My name is the Almighty Creator desires a

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deep personal relationship with you. My name is James Robertson.

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I'm a researcher, publisher, and teacher regarding the matters and

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truth of the Almighty Creator, whose true name is Yeah

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the Ettorney self existing. I've been actively serving him since

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nineteen ninety three, over thirty one years. If you're not

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actively serving Yar, then by default you're serving Satan. My

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objective is to show you how you can make a

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big difference on Earth and qualify for a position of

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high esteem in heaven. For eternity It's important to understand

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that as a believer, just being good is not the point.

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It's relationship with Yar that comes. Without this, you will

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be in a very unpleasant place in heaven with no

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way out. I aim is to show you how to

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get close. If you're a good person without a clear

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relationship with Y'r, then you're in a spiritual no man's

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land and will not enter heaven when you die. The

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Creator has said, regarding unbelievers, why would I want someone

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to spend eternity with me when they do not believe

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I exist? Yas calling everybody on the planet to be

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involved and serve him and help him to have victory

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over Satan. My goal is to show you how to

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do this. Fundamentally, we each need to learn to see

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things on earth from your's perspective, and my aim is

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to teach you how to do that. Please visit my

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website at www dot n Timeisherministries dot org or email

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me on James at Ntimeishuministries dot org. I'd love to

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hear from you. Today. We're going to discuss part one

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of the Torah Dialamma. What exactly is Torah the law

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of Y'ao? So the overview this considerable difference of opinion

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with regard to the law that was given by Moshi

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Moses that has been fulfilled by your sure versus the

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so called Torah that it is said is still applicable

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versus the law that y'all said he were right in

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the hearts of true believers. His broadcast discusses the various

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conflicting interpretations and sets up my understanding of what is correct. Finally,

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we will look at the state of your relationship with

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the Almighty Creator. This is based on the article twenty

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twenty four to twelve oh for the Tora dilemma, what

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exactly is tora? Over a number of years, I've had

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contact with various Messianic people who see themselves as Tora observant,

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and who correctly see you're sure incorrectly called Jesus as Messiah,

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the anointed one who was to come. The question that

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arises is whether tora observance as informal study of texts

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an observance of text is relevant in this age. In

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saying this, while I've read the so called Old Testament

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from Beershith Genesis to Malachi Malachi Malache Malachi over twenty times,

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since I came to serve farther intensely. Father has never

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impressed on me that I should become observant for some

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of these books at any intellectual or works level. Further,

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in two thousand and one, you are clearly stated to

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me that the Bible is not his word, contains errors,

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and is only about two and a half percent inspired.

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So building too much from the Bible, whether the first

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five books of the Bible or the entire Bible versus

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being led by the Spurt, is problematic. I want to

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start off by saying that the Old Covenant was fulfilled

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through the offering of Yahooshur, and so considering this topic,

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it is vital to understand that Yohushur fundamentally changed the

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situation regarding the Dora. The Book of Matiyahu Matthew twenty seven,

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Chapter twenty seven, Verses forty five to fifty three r. Shurs.

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It's written now from the sixth hour until the ninth hour,

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there was darkness over all the land, and about the

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ninth are Yahushur cried out with a loud voice, Eli

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eli laba sabatani. That is my beloved mighty one, My

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beloved mighty one, why have you forsaken me? Some of

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those who stood there, when they heard that, said, this

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man is calling for Elijah. Immediately took one of them

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and ran and took a sponge, filled it with so wine,

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and put it on a reed, and offered him to drink.

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Rest said let him alone, let us see if Elijah

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will come to save him. Now Eli is correctly translated

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not God, but beloved nighty one were in this case,

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my darling, and you sure cried out again with a

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loud voice, and yielded up his spirit. And then behold

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the veil of this is so important, folks. The veil

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of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom,

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and the earthquake and the rocks were split, and the

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graves were opened, and many bodies of the saints had

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fallen asleep were raised coming out of the graves. After

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his resurrection, they went into the Holy city and appeared

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to many. This is confirmed in Mark fifteen Versus thirty

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three to thirty eight. There are a number of key

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points here. See the article the miraculous planning of the

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death of your shop. Sure w'ere high and what for

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an elaboration of many of these points. Number one the

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rocks were rent, allowing the blood and water that flowed

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from the side of your Shir when his side was

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pierced with a spear to flow down onto the mercy

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seat of the Ark of the Covenant, which had been

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hidden there by Yurim Yahu Jeremiah in five eighty six

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PC and was discovered by Ron White in nineteen eighty two.

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Referred to the article on the Miracular Issue's death. Folks,

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this is really important. This is the information that was

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not available at the time that your shirt died, or

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at any time after he died, through to nineteen eighty two.

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When the Babylonians were about to overrun Jerusalem, Juremaiah who

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Yurum Yahoo, took the Ark of the Covenant and hid

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it in a cave in a series of tunnels under

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outside the wall of Jerusalem. So they went down the

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tunnel under the temple and then along and outside and

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hid the Ark of the Covenant there exactly under the

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cliff called Golgotha, looked like a skull, and exactly where

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your show was executed. So his blood fell onto the

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mercy seat of the Ark of the Covenant, and that

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is absolutely pivotal in understanding what you're sure accomplished, because

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when his blood fell on the mercy seat, inducted a

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new high priest, it provided a new offering for sin,

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and it consummated a new covenant. Construs said, enough, folks,

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you need to really get that point. Then the veil

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of the temple was torn from top to bottom. So

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it was torn like that, thereby revealing that the most

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set apart place, the Holy of Holies, was empty, that

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the ark of the Covenant was not there. So the

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high priest as a fraud and the offering for atonement

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of sin was invalid. It's important to note that it

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was torn from top to bottom, showing it was not

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done by human beings. Thus Ya opened a way to

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relationship with him to all believers. Again, this is vital

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to understand in the context of this discussion regarding Torah.

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I've read a report that the veil was woven and

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that they think it was about three inches thick, about

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seventy five millimeters, so basically impossible for a human being

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to tear. Would have had to be cut, and it

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would have been very difficult to cut. And this is

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one of the signs that Yar gave to the masses

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and the high priests and the Pharisees, and the scrimes

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and the Sadaces to show that you're sure was the

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anointed one who was to come, the Messiah. And Messiah

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is again a meaningless word. It's derived from the Hebrew massak,

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which means anointed. He was anointed with the spirit of Ya.

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He was the anointed one that Daniel foretold would come,

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and he fulfilled everything that was written about him. But

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they didn't understand it because they were stuck on their

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head learning and their head interpretation of what the Torah said,

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instead of being sensitive in the spirit and seeing that

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a lot of it was metaphor and parallel. Not also

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that the spirit of Ya had to leave your sure

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in order for him to die. So where your sure

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cries out, Labba, Sorry, I've got it wrong, cries out

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Eli Lama sabatani. My mighty one, my mighty one, on

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my beloved mighty one, on my darling, Why have you

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forsaken me? Yah had to take his spirit off your

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sure because you're sure was so filled with the spirit

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of Yard, the set apart spirit of Yard, the holy

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spirit that he couldn't die. He was hanging there in agony,

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and the only way that he could pass was for

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Ya to remove his spirit from him. And that's something

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that even your sure did not know was going to happen.

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It's so important to understand that You're sure was a

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human being, a man filled with the spirit of Yar.

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It was the spirit of Yard that performed the miracles,

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that had him walk on water than water into wine,

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feed the five thousand rays, the dead killed a sick.

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So if you're believing that Jesus is God, I encourage

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you to let go of that Jesus. You're sure was

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a man. He was one hundred percent of a man.

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The miracle by which he was created was less of

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a miracle than the miracle of creation of haver Eve

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from Adam's rib in the creation of Adam from the

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dust of the earth. And the spirit came on him

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when he was immersed by Yohuka and the Immersa and

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had left him as he was about to die, so

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that he could die. Note also that since the two

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tablets of Stone with the ten words the ten Commandments

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were in the Ark of the Covenant, which was missing

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from the time of Yrumyahu. Thus opening this thereby opened

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away for you the right to write the commandments on

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the hearts of believer. It. This passage is profoundly important

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to this discussion regarding the meaning of Torah and the

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relevance of Torah observant in the current observance in the

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current age. And then, if you're a t observant person,

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I apologize in advance, but I have to say this

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to you. Torah keepers killed Yashur. In considering the life

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and death of your Shure, it is also vital to

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understand that the people who called for the death of

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your Shure misinterpreted the Torah as they had it, such

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that those who had strictly a Toro observant were responsible

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for the death of your Shure, thereby terminating the terms

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of the covenant through Marshi and Moses and opening the

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way of the new covenant through Yohoshur. Thus, ye are

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rejected Torah observance in the strict intellectual sense when Yahushur died.

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The basic approach, as far as I'm able to determine,

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about so called Torah observant modern believers Messianic believe it

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as people who are to observant, but they believe that

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Yosha was the Messiah. Is that you're trying to emulate

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what the people were doing who killed your shore. And

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I beg you to really just meditate on that. You

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can check it out for yourself. Read the four Books

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of Good News, the four Gospels. It was the Torah

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observant people who called for Yashur's death, who detained him,

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who beat him, who mocked him, and who insisted that

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he was executed. You've got to be very very careful

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about what you take on from the people of that age,

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then about tour observance. Most of those who practiced to

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observants today subscribe to the view that the Torah relates

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to the five so called books of Mashi, the books

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of Moses, Vershet comedy called Genesis, Shamoth comedy called Exodus,

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Waekra comedy called Leviticus, and bah Midma comedy called Numbers,

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and Deborum commonly called Deuteronomy. And again we see here

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that the English words may bear no resemblance in many

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cases to the Hebrew, which I have to say to

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you is a little bit silly, since the book was

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written in Hebrew. Why why do we want to just

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completely distance ourselves from the religion that was the source

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of all this. So I only ensforth referred to these

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as the Five Books. They're not Wow. Some of these

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people believe that the Five Books were all written by

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Mashi before he died, including the portion at the end

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of Taborum Deuteronomy which describes the death of Mashi and

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what happened immediately thereafter. So they believe that Yah dictated

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the books to Marshi before he died, and Mashi just

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lived out a preordained script. Note that the above does

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not mean that what I'm saying that people should not

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read the Five Books or the Bible diligently a few

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times and take notes and ask questions. I am saying

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the deep intellectual study of the Five Books or the

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Bible as a whole is not appropriate and is in

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fact damaging, And particularly that memorizing the Five Books or

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the Bible or any other book, including the Quran, is

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totally off the mark. Folks, Father wants a relationship with us.

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With each one of us who wants a relationship with you,

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just put yourself in his situation. You get married, and

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it doesn't matter which way round it goes but it's

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just take it as a man and the woman. So

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the man and the woman get married, and the wife

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had a recording made of video of the marriage ceremony,

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and she's had it transcribed, and it's a little little

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ten or twenty page little booklet. And every night when

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they go to bed, she takes out the booklet and

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reads it. And the husband's lying next to her, saying,

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my darling, can we make love? Can we cuddle a bit?

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And she says no, no, no, no no, I have

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to study the Torah. I hope I'm getting my point across.

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Yard.

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Did not create us to have a relationship with a book,

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whichever book we're talking about, because the Muslims do this

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with the Quran, the Jews do it with the Torah,

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the Christians do it with the Bible and all the

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five books. Yah did not create us to have an

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intellectual relationship with a book. He created us to have

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a deep, personal, spiritual relationship with Him, to be filled

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with his spirit and to know him, to hear him,

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and to speak to him. So you have a choice.

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You can spend hours and hours and hours doing whatever

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tourer portions or Bible study or whatever, or you can

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spend that time worshiping and praying making love to Father.

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I hope I'm getting my point across. Then there's the

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six hundred and thirteen Mitzvot. Some of the people mentioned above,

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the most strictly to observant, also observed the six hundred

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and thirteen s Mitzvot or law six hundred and thirteen

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laws deduced from the Torah by Jewish rabbis and a

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tort as a strict basis for getting into right standing

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with Ya. There's a link on the articles on the website,

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and there's a link there to an example. It will

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be apparent that such a large number of rules for

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wires substantial intellectual effort in order to engage, understand, and apply,

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with the consequence, with the consequence that those who take

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on this discipline are likely to be intellectually engaged with

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the book and not in tune with your spirit. I've

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come across people who say that you can't get close

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to Father unless you're keeping all of the six hundred

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and thirteen Mitzvots and everything that's in the first five books.

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I think it's really sad. So, coming back to what

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I've just said about the Torah in the six hundred

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and thirteen Mitzvots. This is what you're sure was referring

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to in Mati Yahu twenty three to four, speaking of

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the Tora observant leaders describes, etc. He said, for they

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bind heavy burdens hard to bear and lay them on

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men's shoulders, but they themselves will not move them with

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one of their fingers. In my over thirty one years

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of being led by the spirit of Yah, Yah has

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strenuously kept me from having anything to do with the

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six hundred and thirteen that'spots barb being aware of their existence.

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He will not even let me read them. Years ago,

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I said, Father, please help me to know your heart.

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I've had situations where I've felt his intense anger, the

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situations I've had other situations where I've felt his intense grief.

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And there's other things like the six hundred and thirteen

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that he just won't let me read. Why because it's

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not important to him. So wherever you are on the

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continuum of totally spirit led to Torah observant Bible Observant

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six hundred and thirteen, that's for it. Exervant Yeah wants

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a relationship. He does not want you slavishly working according

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to rules. In considering what follows, keep in mind Hoseiah

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for six, my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.

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Because you have rejected knowledge, I also will reject you

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from being a priest for me. Because you've forgotten Torah,

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the law of your mighty one O God, I also

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will forget your children. This paves the way for the

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coming of You're sure and the New Covenant. Those who

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champion tour observants may tact this as an injunction to

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study more deeply, where in fact it is challenging people

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to return to deep knowledge and experience of the almighty

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Creator himself, and then a bit of an asside to this,

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Yah is lonely and making adjustments. Notice also that in

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the historical context, Ya is lonely and is working with

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what he has to work with regarding human beings, which

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are increasingly weak and pathetic. The people today are far

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weaker spiritually than they were three thousand, six hundred years

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ago at the time of marshy Moses. As a consequence,

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Ya has had to substantially and progressively redefine how he

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works with human beings. His adjustments continue to today and

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considering the question of toy in the present age is

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important to evaluate exactly what is applicable today. I published

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an article a few days ago on have compassion on

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Yah to the extent to which his plans have been crippled.

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All through the age, Yah has come up with plans,

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and the people responsible for executing on those plans have

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been disobedient self world and messed them up. Adam ate

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the forbidden fruit. Noah allowed Ammon Jefferth who were unbelievers

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to survive the flood. In the boat, Noah got drunk

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and cursed Canaan, putting in place a curse that holds

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billions of people in Africa in poverty, and so on

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and so on and so on and so on. And

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Father is just he's so tired of making plans and

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having them come to Nord. I've done stupid things in

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my own life recently with my one wife, got in

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to a destructive space, divided the house, lost a big

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contract sabotaged a whole lot of things that could have

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been doing right now. Struggling to dig myself out of

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the hole that I dig myself into. Yeah, I was lonely.

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He wants friends. He wants companions, he wants people to

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talk to him. I managed still to talk to him

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to a point, but in making the mistake that I've

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just told about, I didn't consult him. I went ahead

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and did what I thought was right, and it was

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a mess. So let's talk about tour in the hearts.

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Hebrews Chapter ten, verse sixteen states, this is the covenant

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that I will make with them after those days, says

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you are the attorney self existing incorrectly the Lord, I

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will put my laws into their hearts and in their minds.

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I will write them. Question arises which laws are being

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referred to. Turns out that Hebrews ten sixteen is quoting

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Urim Yahu incorrectly Jeremiah thirty one thirty three. But this

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is the covenant I will make with the House of

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Israel after those days. That clears you are the attorney

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self existing. I will put my law in their minds,

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and I will inscribe it on their hearts, and I

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will be their mighty one. Then they will be my people.

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Your point. This also references isek Your thirty six twenty

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six twenty seven. I will give you a new heart

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and put a new spirit within you. I will remove

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your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh,

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and I will put my spirit within you, and cause

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you to walk in my statutes, to carefully observe my ordinances.

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Now I notice here.

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We have.

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The laws, we have the statutes, and we have the ordinances.

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Then Abram and the Torah Genesis twenty sixty five. Because

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that Abram hath hearkened to my voice and keepeth my charge,

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my commandments, my statutes, and my Torah or often interpreted

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laws translated laws. Clearly, there's much in addition to the

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tourer in the way of yours charge, yours commandments, and

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your statutes, in addition to your Torah. So the Tourrah

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itself is apparently quite narrowly defined. Note also that Abraham

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had the Torah over one hundred five hundred years before Mashie,

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So Victoria is clearly not the five books, which almost

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entirely deal it was the situation after Abraham. But it's

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it's it's important to be discerning here. I have been

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at some level conscious of this issue for very many years,

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but I've skirted around it. I've not really thought it

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was that important. And then some weeks ago I engaged

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with a group of people who were to observant, and

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I met with a man who was tour observant, and

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a few other things sort of got my attention, and

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so I started to pray and seek and article is

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the This article is the result. One of the people

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I met with quoted this Genesis twenty six five said, look,

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these apparently oblivious to the fact that the Torah per

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Genesis twenty sixty five, existed five hundred years before Mashi,

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five hundred years before the Five Books. So the Torah

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therefore cannot be the five Books. It's certainly not the

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whole Jewish Bible, it's certainly not the whole Protestant Bible,

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and it's certainly not the whole body of Jewish teaching.

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So what is the Torah? Going back to Yumyahu thirty

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one to thirty three in an into Linear Bible, we

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find that the word translated law is Strong's number eight

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four five to one Torah. So Hebrews ten sixteen states,

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this is the covenant that I will make with them

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after those days, says you are the attorney self existing,

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I will put my Torah into their hearts and in

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their minds. I will write them, So Hebrews ten sixteen

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is referring to Tora. This highlights the question of what

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is the Torah? The law being referred to here. Strong

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The Torah Dilemma – what exactly IS Torah? (the Law of Yah)

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