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John me Clouse, you evalent day down again, do.
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SA good day? You are mighty. Creative designs a deep
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personal relationship with you. My name is James Robertson. I'm
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a researcher, assurant teacher regarding the matters and truths of
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the almighty Creator whose true name is yeare the eternally
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self existing. I've been actively serving him since nineteen ninety three,
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over thirty one years. If you're not actively serving Yar,
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then by default you're serving Satan. My objective is to
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show you how you can make a big difference on
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Earth and qualify for a position of high esteem in heaven.
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For eternity. It's important to understand that as a believer,
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just being good is not the point. It's a relationship
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with Yar that comes. Without this, you'll be in a
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very unpleasant place in heaven with no way out. I
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aim is to show you how to get close to Father.
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If you're a good person without a clear relationship with
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your then you're in a spiritual no man's land and
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will not enter heaven when you die. The Creator has said,
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regarding unbelievers, why would I want someone to spend eternity
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with me when they do not believe I exist? Eyes
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calling everybody on the place to be involved and serve
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him and help him to have victory over set. My
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goal is to show you how to do this. Fundamentally,
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we each need to learn to see things on earth
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from Yr's perspective, and my aim is to teach you
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how to do that. This is my website at www
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dot Ntimeishueministries dot org or email me on James at
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Ntimeishumanistries dot org to give me feedback or connect with me.
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Today we're going to carry on with the Torah dilemma
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Part two. What exactly is Torah the law of Yah?
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So the overview. There's a considerable difference of opinion with
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regard to the law or the Torah that was given
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by Masha Moses that had been fulfilled by your sure
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versus the so called Torah that has said is still
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applicable versus the law that Yah has said he will
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right on the hearts of true believers. His broadcast discusses
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the various conflicts to interpretations and sets up my understanding
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of what is correct. Finally, we'll look at the state
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of your relationship with your mighty Creator. This is based
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on the article twenty four twelve oh four the Torah Dalima.
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What exactly is Torah? And this is part two. There
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will be probably three parts to this broadcast. Last week
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I left you to contemplate some options. Today I will
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share more of my view of the answer to the question.
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Over a number of years, I've had contact with various
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Messianic people who see themselves as Toroh observant and who
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correctly see Yo Hushure incorrectly called Jesus as Messiah, the
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anointed one who was to come. The question that arises
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is whether the Toro observance. As in a formal study
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of texts and observance of texts is relevant in this age.
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In saying this, While I've read the so called Old
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Testament from veryship Genesis to Malachy Malachi twenty times since
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I came to serve further intensity, whither has never impressed
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on me that I should become observant or some of
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those books an intellectual stroke works level further. In two
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thousand and one, you are clearly stated to me that
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the Bible is not his word. It contains errors, and
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it's only about two and a half percent inspired. So
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building too much on the Bible, whether the first five
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books of the Bible or the entire Bible versus being
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led by the spirit is problematic. So I'm in the
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process of digging into this quite deeply, and I hope
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you've given it some thoughts since last week, and I
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hope you'll give it some more thought now. There's some
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different verses that are capable of interpretation, and a lot
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of this comes back to what is the spirit of
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your saying? And from the feedback I've had in the
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last week, it seems that not everybody agrees with my
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view of what the spirit of you I say. So
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I want to make the assertion that Tora is at
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best a subset of the five Books. That's the Genesis, Exodust,
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Leviticus numbers in Deuteronomy. In so far as most of
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the Bible is simply history, and yeah said, the Bible
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is not my word, and it contains errors and is
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about two and a half percents inspired, I submit that
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Torah is at best a subset of the five Books,
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and certainly not a super set. I want to make
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a clear distinction between codefind law, which is what I
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understand Tora to be, and jurisprudence, the theory of law.
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The philosophy of law is my contention that over and
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above the large portion of the Five Books, which is
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straightforward history, a significant further part of the five Books,
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as jurisprudence is defined above and not codified law. In fact,
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there's a very small part of the five Books that
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constitute's law in the sense of a structured setting out
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of specific rules for serving are. The definition of law
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in google is the system of rules which are particularly
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or particular country or community recognizes as regulating the actions
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of its members. Also a rule of conduct developed by
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the government of society over a certain territory law follows
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certain practices and customs in order to deal with crime, business,
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social relationships, property, finance, etc. Excuse me. The law is
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controlled and enforced by the controlling authority. So I understand law,
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and I understand what I've just read to a firmness.
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His law is very structured, it's very laid out. It's
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very prescriptive, and it says, this is what you may do,
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and this is what you may not do. And if
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you do the things that of forbidden, these are the
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penalties that you will pay. And in my mind, whatever
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we decide constitutes Torah must comply with something that approximates
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that definition. A portion of the Five Books that complies
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with this definition is Leviticus nineteen. The problem is that
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at some level Viticus nineteen, some of Leviticus nineteen is
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irrelevant today. It's in the appendix of the document. It's
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on the website. It also principles and jurisprudence that are
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relevant today are set out on the Ntame Issue Ministry's
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website and elsewhere that are important to live in right
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standing with you are today that are not contained anywhere
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in the fire Books or even in the Protestant Bible
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and hazard to guess that they're not in any version
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of the Bible. And they're also not in the Qur'an.
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So they're not in the Torah in the sense that
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the Jews regard the tour as being the Five Books.
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They're not in the Jewish Bible, they're not in the
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Christian Bible, they're not in the Muslim books. Yet it
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is commonplace, in fact, it's almost universal that people who
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start seeking a relationship with father have had sexual intercourse
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with multiple partners. Women are not with the man who
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took their virginity. They've had two, three, four other men.
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Men are not with a woman whose virginity that took.
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They've been with any number of women, and they have
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one flesh bonds in each direction, which is an abomination
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in the sight of the ear. That's adultery, is what
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in illegal one flesh bonds. And if we take the
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Bible as being totally definitive and limiting, then all we
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have is that you sure said that if a man,
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and go to Genesis two twenty four for this reason,
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a man to leave his mother and his father and
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join cleave of intercourse, that's the cleft into the cleft
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with a blood covenant. Let not man put us under,
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which actually turns out to mean that man is unable
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to put it asunder. It's only by very specific, humble
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prayer to y'all to ask him to cut the one
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flesh pond under very strict legal conditions that that one
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flesh pond are going to recut. And there's nothing in
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the Bible to tell you that that prayer is possible.
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I found out why didn't have hard experience where I
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had a one flesh bond that was tearing me apart,
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and I eventually got a book which alluded to it.
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I figured out what to pray. I prayed at once,
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it didn't work. I prayed again, it didn't work, and
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finally I found somebody to pray with me, and it
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broke and it was like I was in the middle
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of a bungee rope an elastic band, and I snapped
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back together again. And I've prayed that prayer with I
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don't know how many people since then. But it's not
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in the Bible. So it's a bit of jurisprudence that
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amplifies the moment not to commit adultery. Then there are
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parts of the Five Books that are culture context sensitive,
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but also the Five Books or culture context sensitive instructions
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about the way beards should not be shaved or trimmed
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and the like reflective culture of the tribes that the
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Israelates when Israelites would be interacting with in the Promised Land,
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and they're not necessarily particularly relevant today. I don't see
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a lot of men going around with beards that are
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trimmed like that and then like that or in other ways.
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I see the odds somewhat different shaving, but it's it's
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maybe historically relevant. But is that something that you want
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to lay on a believer it today? But we'll get
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back to that then. The belief that the Five Books
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equal the Torah, there are some challenges there are in
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the present age. There's some challenges if the Torah being
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referred to in Jeremiah thirty one thirty three is the
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five Books, what do people do who do not have
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access to the Five Books? Access to Bibles or subsets
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of the Bibles is not universal. And you're Jos calling
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on all earth to serve him and to write his
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Torah in their hearts. You are sent to a number
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of emistries to the gentiles. The Five Books is the
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most common interpretation of Torah, with a variance noted above.
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But there's a huge challenge there, and I have learned
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that when it comes to matters of the Almighty, the
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majority is always wrong. Satanic and demonic realm are in
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control of almost all people on earth, including the vast
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majority of those who regard themselves as believe. Therefore, if
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the satanic and demonic realm are alying the definition of
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Tora to be the Five Books, that indicates that there's
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an issue there. I've been talking to a gentleman in
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Kenya recently who has a ministry with a number of
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He's a shepherd, a pastor. He has a number of
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other shepherds reporting into him, and they have one Bible
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between all the shepherds, so they passed the Bible around
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to refer to in order to prepare their teachings. I
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don't think that's the way Father intended it to be.
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The Bibles are useful resource, but they need to turn
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in they need to turn to the Ceta pots burden.
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My version of the Bible, the Protestant Bible, makes the
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importance of the Ceta Pots spirit of Ya in the
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so called New Testament absolutely crystal clear in a significant measure.
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You sure came to introduce a situation in which people
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individuals were led by the spirit in a significant level.
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And then the Five Books cannot be the law of Moshi,
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which is referred to in various places. There's lots of
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history in the Five Books which is clearly not law
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in any shape or form. So there must be some
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other body of law. Deborum Deuteronomy, chapter thirty one, verse
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twenty six. Take this book of the law Torah and
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put it beside the ark of the Covenant of Yah,
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the attorney self existing, your mighty one, that it may
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be there as a witness against you. There is no
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indication that the Five Books were in existence at this time.
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Books relates to events after you are giving the two
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stone tablets in Mount Horeb. The implication is that the
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Torah referred to here was a much more concise and
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much more specific law book, which suggests that this book
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has gotten lost at the very least at the time
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of the exile to Babylon, and possibly much sooner. I've
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asked Tora observant believers to share a clearly legal document
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with me, and this has not happened. So in further,
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it does not exist in the present age and may
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have been ignored since shortly after the time of mashe folks.
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There's a conundrum here. It's a dilemma. As I said
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in the title of this talk, it doesn't all add up.
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There is definite inconsistency. Note also that since the two
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tablets are stone with the ten words, the ten commandments
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were in the Ark of the Covenant and nothing else,
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and that that has been missing since the time of
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Yurimiyahu Jeremiah in about five eighty two BC. This thereby
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opened the way for Ya to write the commandments on
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the hearts of believers. This passage is profoundly important to
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this discussion regarding the meaning of Torah and the relevance
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of Tora observants in the current age. So we have
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ten words ten commandments engraved on two tablets of stone
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in the Ark of the Covenant my knowledge, and nobody's
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challenged me on this. The Ten Commandments is the only
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time that Yah has spoken out loud to millions of
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people and then inscribed what he said on two tablets
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of stone and commanded that those stone, those tablets of
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stone be placed in the ark of the Covenant. In
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terms of this discussion, those two stone tablets are up there.
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In terms of a narrow, strict definition of Torah of law.
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Everything else is done here. Folks. You cannot convince me
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that the Five Books is strict law. You certainly cannot
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convince me that all the prophets and everything of the